We've Never Had a Revenue Gap Like You've Said Early On

We started out very small but the other thing is that we have a lineup of audio products and so when we made loopback for instance we advertise that to all of our users and they bought that for full price. Over the years we'll have twice as many upgrades because you know it's over owning just one of them. Nobody even really talks about indie Mac or indie iPhone software tools like rogue amoebis indie developers yeah indie developers. It no longer even seems to be a topic of conversation amongst a lot of indie Mac companies I know of of whether or not they're even going to try another attempted iPhone software or iPad software for that oh gosh.