The only way, the only way that Trump's phone call could have produced anything for Trump is if it had gone through a legal process and everybody knew it. To imagine that 28% of our citizens have been persuaded that that was an actual criminal plan couldn't have worked. It's like the insurrection on January 6. Literally no one thought that was an insurrection. But once again, this one quarter of the country or this 28% will actually believe anything. 25% of the country will believe anything, just anything.

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