I've Moved on From the Sense Making

There's more of a premium put on not just civility, but vulnerability in the sense making world. It is connected to a kind of masculinity that is trying to get back in touch with an alienated masculinity. You see versions of that tension in sense making folks. But i think a lot of them lean a little bit more, even further, towards the like, we're just about talking about symbols and meaning, and not about punching, you know, antipa or something.