Do You Get Pushed Back From Those Younger, Fired Up College Kids?

Liken: "All human behave is understandable. If you can have the curiosity and patience to try to understand someone where they come from, you got it" Liken says he always gets pushed back by younger students who think social justice warriors should be harder on people. He's been studying zen for more than a decade; his new podcast aims to help others do the same. The name of the show comes from yin-yang - masculine, feminine, dark -- as well as tao (the Japanese word for peace)