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In real life, there are still these components there, but it's not as obvious. In a game, you do something and then you've got 10 points. And so in life, oftentimes you don't see that. So we kind of have to have a system ourselves or imagine them heads to be as powerful as in the game.

Yu-kai Chou is an Author and International Keynote Speaker on Gamification and Behavioral Design. He is the Founding Partner and Chief Creation Officer of the premium consulting/design firm The Octalysis Group, as well as the Original Creator of the Octalysis Framework, and the author of Actionable Gamification: Beyond Points, Badges, and Leaderboards.

We talked about why games are often more engaging than real life, The Octalysis Framework-Yu-Kai’s most substantial life work that breaks down all human motivation into eight core drives, why traditional schooling so boring, how to gamify your real life, flow theory as it relates to the Octaylsis, and Octalysis Prime-Yu-Kai’s online gamified learning platform.

Yu-Kai Chou Blog: https://yukaichou.com/

Octalysis Prime: https://island.octalysisprime.com/#!/

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