There is a much longer interview that vicki did with me. That's where she interviewed me about my teaching and about podcasts. I will put that on the er, on the podcast as well. Er, if you don't want me to any of your comments out, then just let me know in the emal just say something like, please don't read out my comments. Or i'll be happy if you want to read my comments out because i expect it's sometimes a bit of a surprise if you suddenly hear me reading an email that you've sent to me privately. Ah, ok, so that's it for the fool this podcast. Don't forget to ee at