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Is This a Moment for Change in America?
Zaid Jafari: As long as people stay in the streets, we will see change in this country. Only when it's demanded is what you're saying. And it turned out to be right. We have the benefit of hindsight in this moment to look back now two years later. All these questions about whether this was a quote unquote moment or movement have been answered. I mean, because once people are off the streets and once the demand is gone, the action has gone, the change has gone. The change is gone.