The Joy of Playing Strategy Games

I did a lot of like playing around in Heroes 2 because I was like, all right, I'm bad at strategy games. So I would start modding things that way. And then I started like building stuff from scratch, although I don't think anything I made was any good. It was just like playing with it, you know, like a toolset or like, I think in a lot of ways while I knew what the mechanics were of the game, when I was building stuff, it was like aesthetics.