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How Do We Get Capital Without Energy?
In the last 50 years, we've trebled or quadrupuler load on the planet. We really are benefiting out of using far more energy for production. But what that then gives you is, well, how sustainable is that? And when you have energy as and input to production, in this sense, you also get the necessity of both waste energy and waste materials. You can't produce output without energy and matter. So you then have a link between the economy and jeuricology. There's many, many questions out of it. What is the impact of using all that energy and using all that matter on the sustain ability of the eco system?"