Jamie: I thought joe was doing much better at that time than he was. He's got nothing behind there. And now he couldn't get anyone to go on the show. We worked out that sam harrisand rsam harris opened the flood gate, isn't that what we worked out? Ye, he was the catalist, first big intellectual break through, that this is going to go different than j introduced joe to the intellectual dark web. Y, that changed every yet.

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode