Dan Mall: What's your life altering experience that we could call maybe the biggest failure or biggest kind of setback in your career so far? "I'm very adamant now about really taking that risk and there's nothing, nothing really to lose but something really to lose" He says he doesn't let opportunities slip away when they're presented with him. The next question is not a fun one to answer, but it's certainly, I think a really valuable one for our listeners because we learn a lot fromour own failures and also from other people's failures as well.