How to Communicate With the Client to Get Results

Sometimes you're brought in to do the design research. And sometimes you come in and you need actually to convince the client that the problem they brought you into solve is not the problem you should be solving. So I think that's really a mature way of working with the user experience. After two days, I said to the client, we can't work like that. It's going to it's kind of, of course, I couldn't drop some nice wireframes,. But after four weeks, it's going to be it's not going to be worth anything because then the requirements have changed.