The visral experience is one like flying over a landscape, right? And feeling the feeling of speed, but then also the feeling of incredible detail. I read that the first time you listened to steve wragg's music for 18 musicians,. You had an immediate, visceral and emotional reaction to the repetition and the pattern making. And you felt that it sounded like how your head worked. What struck me about that piece specifically, and what still strikes meAbout that piece, a, that please changed my life. It's the best thing that ever has arranged n my life.