Pete teel made his money on pay pal, which was something that you could say was competing against all the credit card companies. But what they were creating was a way to pay for stuff on line really easily and transfer money between people. That didn't exist. They invented that. And soi i think his, his perspective as a founder, as a starred up guy, as a v c, is that that's where the early money is. Now, whether or not that company can grow and last for 50 years is a whole different set of criteria and parimeters. So it's two really, i see them as two really different circles, but with overlapping values.

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