The Roe vs Wade decision in America has just turned every woman I know upside down and plenty of men too. Emma Deberry is one of those people when that news broke and I was dealing with my unsettled feelings, I went to her social media feeds to see what she thought. She's such an astonishingly clear and certain voice that cuts through so much of our discourse. We talk about some serious stuff and we talk about some light stuff too least of all my early struggles with entering the British middle class and learning their conventions. So this interview was recorded before the Roe against Wade decision we don't touch on that at all maybe it's a welcome space from the before times but I think
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This week Katherine talks to Emma Dabiri, author of Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next.
What begins as a conversation about Emma’s new-found commitment to appreciating all the seasons - not just summer - becomes something else entirely. Emma is one of our most agile thinkers and fearless speakers, and soon she is talking about everything from race and class to how we should think about the world right now. A thread of belonging runs through it all - how we seek and find it, how complicated our identities have become, and why it matters.
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