We're not going to convince someone in china about their views. I think this is more an intra west sort of debate. It's almost less about the us. Versus china at least from our perspective. And we're within the western sphere debating what is happening here, and what does that mean, sort of going forward? This may be a better place to think about where our attention is focuse. We start out recognizing that there's probablbe a different view of stuff that we say from china. But i'd absolutely like the framing.
Ben and James discuss the U.S.-China trade war and the fundamental issues facing both countries generally and tech specifically.
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