Ijus, I'm Trying to Figure Out What You're Saying, Mark.

i'm a little unclear yet to i new what you are saying, mark. He makes that very clear towards the end, that that's his position. This is not just sociology. We're not just explaining this in terms of human psychology and social history. What happens with scientific progress and investigation is ultimately tethered to the way that these theories are related to a mind inddependent reality. So we can discuss what that means at some point.