I find it very powerful when I show national donut diagrams to countries like Norway. And there's a real jaw drop moment actually, and I've seen it visibly on the face of officials of nations who used to be at the top of the ranking. We need new theories, new textbooks, new courses, new ideas, new policies to get us there. So what is the correct term developed world that's creating global eco-side or the global North? It still keeps creating this idea that that's the aspiration and others should grow there.

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