The Formation of John Vervakie

There are certain principles that are involved in building a work of art that are deep principles in almost every arena of science and physics and philosophy and history. And so as I talk to people the questions I asked are for me sort of dedicated to get them talking about things that will help me see if it's fitting inside this frame. John vervakie came from a kind of difficult Christian background a difficult formation in a fundamentalist background which he is open about talking about. He had a difficult time with a kind of worldview and a community that wanted to say, you've got to know this, this is the truth. Because that was such a painful place, that kind of view of the world