083. Ancient Athenian Democracy and Plato -- Good in Theory Crossover with Clif Mark
Everyday Anarchism
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The Inclusion of Athens
In ancient Greece, depending on the military organization of the city states, that's who got included as citizens. But then it was very much if we're going to put you in the army and put you in front of enemies and in danger of being killed, then it's awkward not to give you any political rights. So now we have no taxation without representation is a catchphrase. And so this is one, you know, that's just one link for inclusion. If you want to, I guess if you want to look for the more inclusive regimes, you look sometimes for a conscript description where the elites really need the help of poor people.
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