GraphQL has been used to power a lot of the sites. The CMS itself, what is that built in like what's the stack of that? So I believe that's built in Java. Okay, and that's the thing that's been around for forever much way before you came, right? Yes, yeah, I can't put a number to it but I think it's been for a long time. It's kind of cool because we did not book these interviews knowing that they both were doing this, we booked them totally separate,. But it seems like two large media companies are doing kind of the same thing in terms of a single federated GraphQL API.

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