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Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers on Finding Your Creative Partner

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The Respect for the Panic Button

"We can never have a nervous breakdown at the same time," says Shonda Rhoades. "It's always important for the other person to be like, it's okay. I'll take over." The pair talk about how much they need each other in order to feel sane and centered.

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