The Reality of Donald Trump's Charisma

I'm like, the reality is like, as much as I loathe Donald Trump as a human being, he has more charisma. And unfortunately, in our politics, charisma still really sells whether or not you're going to be doing that out of VFW or you're doing it on a TikTok video. So if that is your bag, then Ron Desanis is going to be your person. But when you're putting him up against Donald Trump and you're a Republican, are you really looking at Ron Desanas and saying, Oh, yeah, that's my guide. That's the backup?"