I think something that is very likely is we'll end with a frozen conflict and Putin has a number of frozen conflicts around his borders where Ukraine is constantly worrying about what's happening over in the east. The Germans are sponsoring a congress, a conference in Berlin to talk about what happens when peace comes which I think is really important. On the slightly more cheerful side it may be that Russia is going to be less capable of causing international damage. If Putin has done one thing apart from creating a much stronger Ukrainian nationalism then he should be regarded as one of the fathers of Ukrainian independence. But if he's done one thing which he didn't intend to do he has much reduced the power and influence and
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What are the lessons that history can teach us about the Russian war in Ukraine? Recently three of Britain’s most distinguished and bestselling historians – Peter Frankopan, Sir Max Hastings and Margaret MacMillan – came to the Intelligence Squared stage in London to share their insights into the conflict. In conversation with BBC news presenter Jonny Dymond, they examined how politicians and commentators have been using and abusing history to justify their positions on the conflict. How has President Putin been invoking the past to rally support among the Russian people for his actions? Is Putin a 21st-century Hitler who should be defeated at all costs? And as he threatens to use nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory, what lessons can we learn from brinkmanship during the Cold War?
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