Intro

Yesterday, we told the story of President Trump’s trade war with China. Today, our colleague speaks with two Americans who have been feeling the effects of that war. Guests: Natalie Kitroeff, a business reporter for The New York Times, talked to Kevin Watje, a truck manufacturer in Iowa, and Eldon Gould, a farmer in Illinois. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

Background reading:

• President Trump’s tariffs, initially seen as a cudgel to break down trade barriers, increasingly look like more permanent measures intended to shelter American industry.
• Some Republicans are balking at the president’s trade policy as the Trump administration considers another bailout for farmers.

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