
20th Anniversary celebration with the most memorable guests: Jason Reynolds, Marina Abramović, Chris Ware, Richard Saul Wurman, Rick Rubin, and Roxane Gay
Design Matters with Debbie Millman
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Rick Rubin: Early influences and Def Jam
Rick recalls punk origins, Flipper's influence, forming Hose, and naming Def Jam from street slang.
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