Peter Francapan and the Crusade of 1204

This is the shiny second bonus episode if you like of what was going to be a series about the Ottoman Empire, but then we stretched. How can you understand the Ottoman Empire unless you understand the Byzantine Empire that it replaced? And once again, I'm very excited to say because you love him. It's our inbox is full of Francapan love. We're joined by Peter Francapan. The great Peter Francapan and we were talking about Byzantine until 1204 when Seljuk Turks poured into Anatolia. Where do you want to take us next to Anita? Can I take you forward a little bit more to the fourth crusade of 1204? Because this, we've got this impression