Falling Out: Trump and Musk's Tumultuous Shift

During an extraordinary weekend, President Trump deployed 2,000 troops from the National Guard to suppress protests in Los Angeles against his own immigration policies, and his bitter breakup with the world’s richest man, Elon Musk, entered a new stage of acrimony.

Shawn Hubler, The New York Times’s Los Angeles bureau chief, and Jonathan Swan, a White House correspondent, join Michael Barbaro to walk listeners through an eventful 48 hours.

Guests: 

• Shawn Hubler, the Los Angeles bureau chief for The New York Times.
• Jonathan Swan, a White House reporter for The New York Times.

Background reading

• Law enforcement officials fired tear gas and crowd-control ammunition at protesters in downtown Los Angeles on Sunday.
• Mr. Trump’s decision to remove a close associate of Mr. Musk from the running to lead NASA helped doom an extraordinary partnership.

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