Is There a Line Between Utopianism and Distopianism?

"The opportunity is wide open. The line between utopianism and distopianism, coming out of the left is really blurry right now," he says. "We don't need to fly to mars in order to have an exciting experience with technology." He argues that ordinary people can use powerful digital technologies for their own good. 'It just requires a little bit learning andsome seriousness, recognizing what the stakes are'