How to Grow a Cloud SaaS Product - The First Layoff

In the first couple of years, while we were at Joyan, there was a push to grow the company internationally. And one of the big flaws in hindsight is that there was not real product market fit for the product. I think probably demonstrated more on the ladder, which involved setting up beachheads and kind of major parts of the world. It certainly could have done things better. But just was, you know, it was really hard. We had to move quickly unlike others who can make clear decisions and move fast.