i keep hearing that poton is this madman. That the only possible explanation for his behaviour is either senility, he's gone crazy or he's gone mad. And you know, i'm like, maybe those things are true, but you can't say that he hasn't been clear about what his red lines are. He's been saying this for 20 years, that ucrane joining the alliance is an absolute red line. We just act like this sguy is insane, ad has no point of you i'not we don't have to believe he's right, but to basically say that hiis he has no interests in russian security that we need to give any weight