This is your third appearance on this podcast. In the first one we discussed why energy would be a limit to a business as usual future. The second episode you outlined four social groups that are present when talking about thinking about our future and global predicament. We've now got multiple black swarms around us, some are visible but some are not here but highly probable. It's no longer a drill. Like our daily lives are being impacted. Those groups are forming now because the wheels are falling off now.

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