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Kathie Lee Gifford
Joy, a Podcast. Hosted by Craig Ferguson
The Joy of Life
"I remember seeing you, I think that today, she wasn't long after Frank had passed. And you had that kind of quite speedy vibe of someone who was in grief and in shock," he says. "You are someone to me who seems to be in adversity, able to turn to a joy of some kind or maybe it's wrong to say, but manufacture it in yourself or find it from somewhere."
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