I Love That Data Over Ego

Ramsey: I love that data over ego. When i was building privy and on calls with customers all day long, you know, there was that perception, believe it or not, even just around like a standard list growth pop up,. people were like, o it's intrusive. And at the end of the day, if you believe in the power of revenue from channels like emal,  and you see what that has done for your business in the past, why wouldn't you want to grow that list? Right? That was what it was back then.