When evaluating a start up, it's very interesting to me to see which stuff you throw out. As we get earlier and earlier with companies, or in my case, i'm seeing a lot of companies that are like, coming out of r and d and about to commercialize. Some seed investors, accelerators, angel investors, like to invest even for the product is launched. This is incredibly high risk. I tell everybody who's starting as an angel investor, do not do this. Make your first 20 investments based on products in market,. That's our bread and butter. We like to look at year one of traction.

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