The Importance of Scaling AI

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OpenAI5 is an AI that plays DOTA 2, a multiplayer online battle arena game with a huge cult following. In 2018, the flat out challenged OG, the reigning world champion team. It ended up being that this was our first real scaled system and that the system got better each week as we put more compute into it. And then another thing is like we make high conviction concentrated bets and so rather than spread out onto lots of things, we did stuff at the time which was considered like unimaginable by many other AI companies.

How might we develop and deploy beneficial, safe artificial general intelligence for humanity? Reid and Aria are joined by Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, and Greg Brockman, OpenAI co-founder and president. Sam and Greg trace their journey—from articulating their mission to early company projects and decisions to scaling and sharing GPT-4 with the world. They also explore the transformative impact artificial intelligence can have on other industries, like energy, medicine, education, and law. Plus, GPT-4 offers a poetic perspective on a piece of code.

Read OpenAI’s paper on the Unsupervised Sentiment Neuron here.

Here's the code used to generate Greg's AI poem: https://github.com/openai/openai-python/blob/main/openai/api_requestor.py.

Read Impromptu by Reid Hoffman with GPT-4 here.

For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all of the episodes, visit www.possible.fm/podcast.

Topics

4:00 - Hellos and intros

4:30 - The OpenAI mission

8:45 - Advancements in education and medicine

12:14 - Surprises with scale

15:19 - Building GPT-4

18:34 - Regulating AI

25:50 - How OpenAI got where it is today

28:26 - First scaling success with DOTA

32:51 - Which industries will AI transform?

39:30 - Sam and Greg’s investments outside AI

45:08 - Surprising applications of AI

49:40 - Rapidfire questions

56:16 - Debrief with Reid and Aria

Possible is a new podcast that sketches out the brightest version of the future—and what it will take to get there. Most of all, it asks: what if, in the future, everything breaks humanity's way? Hosted by Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger, each episode features an interview with a visionary from a different field: climate science, media, criminal justice, and more. The conversation also features another kind of guest: GPT-4, OpenAI’s latest and most powerful language model to date. Each episode has a companion story, generated by GPT-4, which will serve as a jumping-off point for a hopeful, speculative discussion about what humanity could possibly get right if we leverage technology—and our collective effort—effectively.

Possible is produced by Wonder Media Network and hosted by Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger. Our showrunner is Shaun Young. Possible is produced by Edie Allard and Sara Schleede. Jenny Kaplan is our Executive Producer and Editor. Special thanks to Theresa Lopez, Surya Yalamanchili, Saida Sapieva, Ian Alas, Greg Beato, and Ben Relles.