Sally Kohn: It takes courage actually to do the thing that's like completely counterintuitive to our culture sometimes, which is work ridiculous amount of hours. She says she realized through doing that and taking care of herself that I was more productive and the quality of my work was better. "As much as I have wished every single night that my emails would magically disappear before I came back in the morning, they never once have"
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Command Sergeant Major JoAnn Naumann shares her powerful story of coming to the realization that something wasn't right internally and if she wanted to lead others, she needed to begin with herself. Joe and JoAnn discuss stigmas with asking for help, the importance of habits and rituals, and setting professional boundaries.