i met you through my son patrick. And when i was listening to you the first time we got together, i hit right on that idea of boring. The private market is really in and our universe is, if we include mikeerhaps its may be ten thousand companies, whereas your universe is 800 thousand plus companies. Yes, when you think about the marketing, the private market's not growing. It's just that public markets are shrinking. I mean, actually, probably th private markets aren't growing too much. There's ontrinerships probably at the lowest point it's been in the last 35 years right now,. which is really unfortunate.

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