ETFs are just such a fascinating wrapper and package that the growth is just unbelievable. In this time of I'm going to say uncertainty in the market. It's not a bad mood in the market but it's not euphoric even though we continue to rally. There's still a reluctance outside perhaps those 8 or 10 names in the NASDAQ or maybe the grade 8Outside of that, you're seeing people with a reluctance to participate in the market except perhaps through particularly the bigger names the spiders the QQQs,.

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