Do You Still Meet Men in the City of London?

I think many men now, and especially in our industry, really are just as frustrated as the women that we're not seeing more progress on this. Data does suggest that mixed-gender teams are the best performing. So I'm afraid, yes, one or two. pockets where you're like, I don't really think they're on board with this idea. You talk about winning over hearts and minds, because this project to me feels much more muscular. This feels like getting results on the ground. It feels like a more muscular diversity project than we've seen before,. which has been talk maybe top down. This is very much bottom up.