Is leaving evangelicalism really a departure—or just a shift within the same framework?

In this provocative episode, Dave Fitch and Mike Moore wrestle with the deep similarities between evangelical and post-evangelical spaces. Are we just switching teams while playing the same game? From the role of the self in faith to justice work and power structures, they explore what truly changes (and what doesn’t) when people move from white evangelicalism to progressive or mainline Protestant spaces.

🎙️ In This Episode:

Why leaving evangelicalism doesn’t necessarily mean leaving evangelical ways of thinking.
The modern self: how both fundamentalist and progressive Christianity center personal identity.
Justice as something we do vs. justice as something Jesus is doing.
The trap of power: why both evangelicals and progressives wield authority in similar ways.
How a neo-Anabaptist vision could reshape discipleship and engagement with culture.

📌 Highlights:

[00:05:00] Does moving from evangelical to post-evangelical really change anything?
[00:13:00] How both camps center faith around the individual self.
[00:21:00] Justice work: Are we doing it for people or with people?
[00:32:00] Power dynamics: Why both evangelicals and progressives assume an expert posture.
[00:37:00] A vision beyond the binaries: toward a new way of being the church.

💡 Takeaway:

Shifting theological or political stances doesn’t automatically transform the way we engage culture, power, and justice. Without rethinking the self, mission, and power dynamics, we risk reinforcing the very systems we hoped to escape.

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