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The Importance of Imagining a Better World
I think there's definitely a lot of things that are really, that are really worth rethinking. There is the intellectual exercise of figuring out like what actually would be the ideal,. And I think it's valuable to do because you can't just be fighting against something, you have to havesomething that you're fighting for. But at the same time, there's this other exercise of trying to figure out what is a path to get from where we are today with the actors that exist today.