Because you spend so much time studying the past, you can identify the trends and be able to look at the future. Who are the people today that

you notice that the world doesn't know, but then

10 years or 20 years are going to be obvious to the world in terms of their success? I don't think there's so many investors that say that to me, they're like, you should have fun, you should have best, because you could do pattern matching. I was like, I don't believe in myself. I don't believe in anybody else but myself. So I'm literally putting 100% of my network behind me. There are a couple people. I saw a friend of mine, Luz in New York. I won't say his name, but he's one of these. You weren't ever across these entrepreneurs, and it's like, I think it's going to be more common because when I was a person, I was like, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a work-in-fast-move restaurant, I work at the car wash, whatever. Now they can innovate money from the bedroom. This guy had had like three or four businesses in high school. One of them used to make it to 90,000 multiple. It's in high school. I saw all software. Then he starts a company, obviously doesn't go to college, so he does. Then he starts his company, I think in the first two years, he sells it for many, many, many millions of dollars, and now he's 23 of off the certain other company. So that dude, he emailed me because he loves the podcast, and he's like, you handle

this. I was like, no, what I would do. I was

like, I don't even want to know what the fuck your idea is. So this is like a bet on you. And he said it was important to him because he's like, you know, I learned a lot of the podcast, he can get a lot of value out of it, he can become friends and everything. And so that's my whole thing. I was like, listen, man, if you think it supports you, I'm just back at you because I think you're a special dude. I don't care what the product is, and I'm not going to spend any other time, other than maybe founders, but if you want me to do that, then we have to be supportive, or we keep rather. And then there's all weird things where I may be able to help in the future distribution, or whatever, it's a podcast, he's building a product for this. But other than that, the answer is, I have no idea. I remember it's at this dinner all the time, and they're like, similar. They're like, with everything you know, what do you think is going to happen with it? What the fuck is this? It's like building before this. Yeah, the metaverse. And I was like, well, fuck should I know? Like, I have no idea. Like, I think that I let things play out. You know, time is the only filter I trust. Like, I don't know. Like, there's so many people that start strong, and then like, they peter out, or they like run their company into the ground, or whatever. I think it's a lot easier to be successful for a year. A lot of people who use successful a year, five years. I'm interested in the people that can be successful for multiple decades. I'm not interested in people that are successful when you fuck off. Like, how do you get successful and stay successful? That's what I want. One of the best lines from Charlie Munder is, it's not getting rich, that's a problem. It's staying the same. And so what he sounded like, he said that when he was in his 90s, where he's just like, there's a ton of people that are going to be really successful, and they are really rich, rich, wealth disordered, like, it makes them go crazy. And they lose, and they stop doing whatever it was they got them to begin with. And so even that, I regret some of the books that I've done on people that are still awkward. I really, really want to try to focus on people. If they, I love to just focus on debt entrepreneurs, but if it's not debt entrepreneurs, I want to be somebody that's Phil Knight, who's like, Nike's not going to explode. And he's 70 years older than whatever the case is. So I really want to focus on entrepreneurs that we can learn from that have been doing it for multiple decades, because it's an uneven distribution. If the difference between a 20 year old successful founder and a 40 year old sister brother is not twice as valuable. It's like 100 or 200 existing amount of information that they've learned over that extra few decade, and then being able to maintain that success. That's the rarest of the way that's what I'm after. Well, it excites me because we're going to get to see that play out in real time with you, and you've been doing this for seven years. Imagine the next seven, and the seven after that, the learnings you're probably going to get in the next seven years. It's going to be 100

times more valuable than the first seven

potentially. And that's exciting to witness and to watch. So, dude, thank you so much for your time, your energy, your wisdom. I like the end these podcasts with challenges. Last time on episode 290, the challenge that you gave the audience was to read more biographies, which I love. Do

you have a challenge for the audience? That's the same. I

know what you listen to founders if you want to, but even if you don't, that's cool. It'll be sweet, more biographies. It just keeps you an unfair advantage. You have to, Brian and Holiday has this great pose where he gets like 25, 5, 5 recommendations, and he writes a short practice like we do with a paragraph or two. And so, you go into the house and most of the people in the world, it's like you look at their bookshelves. They read a lot. Without exception, they all read biographies. It is some of the highest value reading you could do. I don't even go to the box if you grab some books that I've covered or you just find people interested. Just read them. You get to, you wonder, you connect with them as a person, and the lessons will be ingrained in you because you connected as a person as opposed to just regurgitating or trying to remember a bunch of facts. So, that's it. It's like, I can only tell you to do what I do. I relate to read biographies. It's extremely valuable. I talked to all these other super successful, super rich people. They're doing it too. They did it way before they're super successful, super rich. I just caught up with it. David, Senator, ladies and gentlemen, go listen to the Founders Podcast. Your life will be better as a result of it. My life has been. Thank you so much for your time.