Running amarathon is not a group goal. This is an individual thing. And so you're trying to achieve an individual goal, wih eans yu're probly making this my map by yourself,. So i dun't now, tis just that one is not a great, not a great example. He's trying to use examples that don't really fit and he's doing himself a dis service. But still, i feel like that the path forward here is get around some other people who are doing this and do it with them and live. Figure out the mistakes that you're making, and don't do those things my mapping, seems to me.