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Cecile Richards on Planned Parenthood, labor organizing, and the Supreme Court

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

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How to Be a Good Listener

Sally Kohn: You have to fundamentally be interested in other people and want to learn about their stories. She says if you could really understand where people are coming from, what motivates them, what their needs are, then I think you can be a good organizer and a good leader. "I love that line that people do things for their own reasons," she says of Donald Trump's lack of deal-making skills.

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