I want to dig into a bit about your background. How did you go from practicing as a general practitioner, getting involved in medical herbalism and now looking after patients from a disadvantage? I've been interested in the herbal medicine research since even before I qualified. So I guess I also grew up in a household where my mum was really interested in herbs. She would make her soup with herbs every evening. And when she got the menopause, she would treat that with her sage tea. so I grew up with that sort of background.

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