I would want to see does the church have anything like a doctrine of hell as unpopular as it is is so often that ballast. The whole history of the church has rejected universalism and massive books have shown that to be true. If you don't find a clear doctrine of heaven and hell one of the reasons when whatever you know almost 20 years ago when rob bell did love winds and dabbling there with universalism now is that really such a big deal?

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