i think, o close the door ai opened was i think of these kinds of arguments that intelligent design creation o make as vastly superior to the old arguments made by the young earth creationists. Scientists do reason in a basian way, where you guys are trying to p update your priors. And then he makes a comment, cause we also discuss the nature of consciousness, it also seems inevitable that at any level of depth, the theory is going to look pretty abstract,. almost vindicating a kind of idealism where the only reality is the math hersarm. Cause can't really test these superabstract theories because they're all based on maths. Well, there's two different types