The Importance of Project and Program Management for MOps with Paula Gorman
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The Importance of Respect
I think it is a hard muscle to build. The very first time that I ever really felt comfortable pushing back on a senior leader was probably only in the last like four years of my career. And, and part of that is experience, right? Part of that is also just like realizing that, you know, that's actually what they want. You know, at the end of the day, as long as you're not being a jerk, like they do or personal or personal right but like it's a there is a business to be run,.
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