MEV and the Evolution of Special Decryption

MEV is something you both have been interested in for a long time. My understanding is that it played into the early philosophy and creation of osmosis. You guys were very interested in special decryption and and eventually began working on this essentialist exchange. Could you just talk a little bit about that journey and sort of your personal experience with MEV? Yeah so in a way I was supposed to started with Sunny and I advice two years ago. It's over time evolved into other aspects like oh in an app chain setting it makes a lot of sense to just batch your trades together maybe it makes sense to auction higher spots or your first spot in a block etc.